Post by Heronstar on May 22, 2014 22:12:15 GMT
ok ok so someone said "Woah those rules are super long do I have to read all of this text?" Which is a good question, and the answer is a big N-O. YOU ONLY NEED TO READ WHAT'S IN WHITE. The darker writing is there if the rule is unclear. It provides a more thorough and logical description if you don't understand.
Remember that each member is given three strikes. If you cuss or bully at any of our members, you will be screenshotted and reported to the feralheart staff, we will alert other warrior RPs of your behavior should we feel it's needed, and we will ban your IP adress on the forum. We do NOT take kindly to BULLIES. Please be kind, and read what is in white writing. And remember, three strikes (two if it's a harsh offense). We can be a nice, kind community as long as you're nice back. 8)
1. L I T E R A C Y
- We like our RP to sound like it's a book, with smooth flowing sentences. We ask that all members attempt to use proper punctuation (putting commas, periods, capitals), spelling and lengthy posts.
- If you do not live up to the sample you sent, you will be kicked after one week unless you improve.
- RP posts that only take up one entry on the FH chat box should have an -s- at the end unless you're continuing. If you plan on continuing, we ask that you add some sort of sign so people know you're not done. Like "The she then -c-/>>/(con)"
- Semi-literate (meaning you may know grammar and spelling, but posts are short. Or you make a lot of typos, but you put in good detail) people are also allowed in this RP as long as they promise to improve over time. No one is perfect after all and we're happy to work with new people that are patient.
- You may only post cut if the person you plan on cutting is not in the actual conversation or event happening.. Accidents do happen, but they don't happen too often! Try to pay attention to marks that show continuation and try not to post cut. You can if other people who you aren't interacting with are posting.
2. R E A L I S M
-Realistic names only. When naming a character, just think about this: "Would the mother name them with that prefix?" A mother wouldn't name her kit Bloodkit, Deathkit, Bonekit, etc. Names also can't be from the clans. Like Boulderkit, Lichenpaw, or Hollowpaw.
- Our RP isn't the most realistic of course, as we do have spirit involvement. However, this does NOT mean we want blue cats who can see the future running around. Absolutely NO powers will be allowed.
- ALL colors must be realistic, with semi-realistic designs. As in, no diamonds, tattoos, etc but stripes and spots can vary.
- We DO allow items, as long as these items are something that can be found in the forest and applied by a cat. You wouldn't find a bow tie laying around the forest. We mean you can have a twig in their mouth, or feathers behind their ears. Kittypets can wear collars, but only temporarily. It eventually is taken off.
- We do NOT allow cats with "knife like" claws, or anything of the sort. Claws and fangs are NORMAL in Viridity, no exceptions. If you need to rely on massive dagger-like claws and vampire fangs in order to win a fight, then you need to learn how to fight properly.
- Only real cat breeds are allowed in this RP, but you can be a mongrel (mutt version of a cat) with many different breeds to create something different.
- No cats who are part lynx or other big cats. Savannah cats are allowed, BUT they must be ex-kittypet, and we will only allow up to four active savannah cat characters as it is a rare occurrence in the RP. You wouldn't see flocks of them in the forest.
- In short, realistic cats with semi-real designs and only real breeds.
3. CHARACTERS.
- No full manes, I realize it shows fluffy-ness but it just looks terribly awkward on FH.
- You must be active in the clan you first joined. Even if that character dies, you still must have a character in it. If you genuinely have a huge problem with your clan and feel you need a transfer, then tell a moderator IMMEDIATELY before it is too late. *Most* clan transfers are denied after two days of being in the clan, so decide quickly. You will not be allowed to clan hop! If you are seen being more active in other clans, you will be asked to delete your other characters.
- NO INSTA CRUSHES OR INSTA MATES OF ANY KIND. Must have at least 2 days IRL time to develop a crush!
- You get 4 characters, and only 2 if you fail to be active often. Three can be anything. A warrior, an elder, a loner.. the last can ONLY be an elder or a loner/rogue.
- You may not only be a kittypet or only be a loner. You can only stay as a kp/loner/rogue for 10 days, then you will be asked to RP into a clan, or make a second clan cat.
- No matter the breed or strength of your character, they may NOT exceed Crowstar's size. Here's a little size chart for you.
LARGE, HEAVY CAT (can increase length)
AVERAGE MALE
AVERAGE FEMALE
NO KIT SIZED WARRIORS PLEASE.
Map password is soggynachos.
- Whatever you do, whatever you RP, you are doing it at your character's own risk. Accept it. This means that if you kill someone, walk into a camp as a rogue and cause trouble, you are likely to be gunned down by the clans and killed for being a threat. You CAN'T play the victim card or be surprised when the clans react REALISTICALLY. Accept it, or don't RP it
- Please try to stick to one personality. While some may have multiple personalities, it can be aggravating to have a character who was raiding and attacking one moment and then offering food and taking care of kittens the next. In short, be bad or be good so there's no irritation or confusion.
- All characters must have weaknesses. You CANNOT be agile AND huge. You can't be a great tree climber, and also an expert fisher. Choose a skill, and weight it out with weaknesses. (i.e, Crowstar is one of the biggest cats in the forest, very strong and a leader... but he has terrible sight, despises swimming, and is often reckless in making decisions.) If you are seen having too many skills and not enough weaknesses you will be asked to change your character.
- As for characters aging, 2-3 days will equal one moon. You are allowed to slow this time down if your character is an adult, as that's typically the age you want to keep your character at. The time is often scrambled and messed around with for RP purposes, but it is USUALLY 2-3 days and we will inform you if there are changes.
- Lastly, unless your character was actually a kittypet, you may not use actual cuss words in the RP. Damn and bastard are probably the only thing we will allow. Please don't have your character saying ass, shit, etc.
4. K I T S / Q U E E N S
- All kits are named after the thing their mother dreams about the night before their birth, and it also often has to do with their appearance as well. But this doesn't mean a queen can dream of death and name her kit Deathkit. Even so, all names for kittens must be realistic.
- Kits must have at least 6 RP sessions in before they can be apprenticed. Their mother must be present for their apprenticeship unless she gives permission to do it anyways.
- Queens can't poof and be pregnant unless they A) have had a mate for 10 days or B) joined as a queen.
- Only one queen can give birth at once in a clan. Her kits must be apprenticed or very close to apprenticeship before another queen can give birth.
5. A P P R E N T I C E S
- You are only allowed to train with warriors in your clan. If you have an active mentor, we prefer you keep sessions with them unless they fall inactive. I've noticed a lot of apprentices like to train with rogues, but in actuality if a young cat spotted a rogue in the forest they may just high tail it back to camp/not accept any sort of lesson from them. If you do train with them, it still will not count. Your mentor/training classes are there for a reason.
- You MUST have 5 training lessons in before getting your warrior ceremony. Sometimes this is more if you're inactive. It is implied that there was a lot more training in between these sessions so your character didn't literally have only sessions, they actually had moons of practice.
- All apprentices must be at least 16-18 moons before becoming a warrior- this is the bare minimum.. Keep in mind they are training for many moons to please and serve their clan, so their mentor would want to make sure they are perfectly fit for the role. They'd also still be considerably young when becoming a warrior.
- If your mentor is not active, you can see your leader about a new one or you can attend "classes" where you have a teacher for a subject and train with multiple other apprentices.
6. R O G U E S / L O N E R S / K I T T Y P E T S
- All rogues and loners may not be younger then 19 moons, which is still very young. These are cats who are living a life on their own in a giant forest with many threats, who must hunt for themselves. They MUST be a proper age for it. Kit/apprentice rogues or loners are very unrealistic.
- Please ask a leader before creating a rogue.
- Kittypets must at least be 5 moons old, and they can't wonder across rivers or get deep into the forest. The reason is is because many people like to have young kittypets, but in reality they wouldn't get very far until they get swooped up by a bird or eaten. In other words, warriors must find you nearby the two leg place, or you must be an older kittypet in order to wander more.
- All rogues, loners and kittypets may NOT intrude on a camp ground without first asking the leader/deputy's permission. Any RP posts will be dismissed until you ask.
- Your R / L can not just wonder into a camp or hurt someone and try to get away scott free. If you do anything that the clans would consider a threat, your character WILL be watched out for, and will most likely NOT be forgiven easily at all. Do not try to play the victim card when we react realistically.
7. A C T I V I T Y
- Activity requirement is 3 days a week. Every other day for med app/medicine cat/deputy, and daily (with some excused absences in between) for a leader.
- If you can't be active enough for a high rank, don't take it and don't be surprised when an administrator de-ranks you. It's honestly just kind or rude and rank hogging.
- We won't tolerate people who constantly leave the RP and then come back. You can do this three times, but the fourth time you will not be allowed to rejoin the RP.
8. M E D S / D E P / L E A D E R.
- You will not receive any of the ranks unless the leader specifically asks for you, or you audition. Period.
- Do not apply for any rank- including med apprentice- if you KNOW you won't be able to be active. The requirement is every other day, and daily for leaders (with some excused absences in between of course)
- All leaders must be willing to recruit and take samples for their clan. Deputies should also be willing to recruit for their leader and take charge OOCly. Crowstar won't hold your hand and recruit everyone for you. You're leader for a reason.
- All must be highly literate, very familiar with the rules and how to enforce them, and know when enough is enough. I want to say mature, but who is honestly mature on feralheart? Just know when to stop joking in other words!
- If a leader/dep/med/med app continuously becomes absent - even if it is excused, they WILL be removed. I completely understand that RL things happen, but we still need someone to fill the position in the RP.
- Leaders must help moderate the forum and moderate their clan. As said before, other mods will not do it for you.
9. R P B A T T L E
- Auto-hit style - unless during a training lesson- will not ever be tolerated. If preformed more than three times in a battle, you will be asked to step out of the fight. Instead, aim and attempt.
- Auto-hitting means that you said in your role play post you full on landed a hit with no miss ("He clawed at her eye, drawing blood"). Aiming and attempting is specifically saying you TRIED to make that hit, and whether you make it or not is up to the opponent's response (He threw his claw forward and attempted to claw her eye)
- Just because you are given the chance to dodge doesn't mean you need to take it every single time. Large, heavy cats are only allowed 5 dodges in a battle. Agile, swift cats are allowed 7. They may NOT be continuous (like you can't dodge 7 times in a row)
- All moves must be realistic. No ninja flips or anything of the sort.
- Cats under the age of 7 moons may not participate in a fight.
- Please know your mortality. I know there's an arguement about "Agility can beat brute strength!" but in reality, as soon as a large cat gets his teeth on a smaller she cat, she will most likely die. Please role play realistically at all times and TAKE HITS realistically. Your character is NOT made of steel and will get brutally injured.
- If you get severely injured in a battle you will be out and sitting in the med den for at least 6 days.
- A lot of wounds can be healed, but please keep in mind that your character will never recover if their shoulders dislocate or their ribs break. Usually cats would just go away to curl up and die if they actually broke their ribs. I'd recommend not getting those broken.
10. P R O F A N I T Y/WHAT NOT TO SAY
- Respect each other. One of our most important rules is to be kind to each other, as we're all here for the same reason; to have fun, to build a story. Do not ruin it by being flat out rude.
- Cussing is allowed but please remember that not everyone is as old or as bold as you. Do not drop the F bomb a lot, and I ask you censor a lot of what you say. If someone kindly asks you to stop because it's bothering them, then do it.
- Racism of any kind will not be tolerated. While you may think it's just a "harmless joke" a person of that race could be highly offended by it. So please, keep it to yourself no matter how funny you think you're being.
*Trigger Warning*
- The discussion of disorders like anxiety or anorexia is not to be joked about or even talked about. Some people may have/had such problems and do not want to relive it. It's insensitive to talk about it.
- The same thing goes for talking about rape. When I say this, I don't mean "You can say it if it's a joke!" I mean don't even joke about it.. It's very damaging mentally and a terrible thing to go through. Even things like "*rapes ur character because it's hawt*" will not be tolerated. To some people this may sound ridiculous, but we've all agreed it's more than reasonable.
(trigger done)
- And on a final note, please don't bring personal problems into a public chat. We'd love to make room and help everyone but honestly it can trigger someone else by talking about problems.
11. MISC RULES
- Do not take matters into your own hands if a problem in the RP occurs. You screenshot it, and you send it to a moderator. Mini-mods won't be allowed here.
- You may not make spirit characters, or characters part of prophecies. They are to be AUDITIONED for and we do keep track of them.
- Please do not discuss the Dark Forest cave's location. It's supposed to be secretive and used for RP purposes. Do not disclose the location or visit it often.
- No other groups on the map aside from the three clans. It's honestly disrespectful to us RP admins to do those things without permission.
- When a mod says no, it means no. If you believe they are being unreasonable or not doing their job properly then speak to Crowstar or Cloudstar and we will go over the situation.1
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Remember that each member is given three strikes. If you cuss or bully at any of our members, you will be screenshotted and reported to the feralheart staff, we will alert other warrior RPs of your behavior should we feel it's needed, and we will ban your IP adress on the forum. We do NOT take kindly to BULLIES. Please be kind, and read what is in white writing. And remember, three strikes (two if it's a harsh offense). We can be a nice, kind community as long as you're nice back. 8)
1. L I T E R A C Y
- We like our RP to sound like it's a book, with smooth flowing sentences. We ask that all members attempt to use proper punctuation (putting commas, periods, capitals), spelling and lengthy posts.
- If you do not live up to the sample you sent, you will be kicked after one week unless you improve.
- RP posts that only take up one entry on the FH chat box should have an -s- at the end unless you're continuing. If you plan on continuing, we ask that you add some sort of sign so people know you're not done. Like "The she then -c-/>>/(con)"
- Semi-literate (meaning you may know grammar and spelling, but posts are short. Or you make a lot of typos, but you put in good detail) people are also allowed in this RP as long as they promise to improve over time. No one is perfect after all and we're happy to work with new people that are patient.
- You may only post cut if the person you plan on cutting is not in the actual conversation or event happening.. Accidents do happen, but they don't happen too often! Try to pay attention to marks that show continuation and try not to post cut. You can if other people who you aren't interacting with are posting.
2. R E A L I S M
-Realistic names only. When naming a character, just think about this: "Would the mother name them with that prefix?" A mother wouldn't name her kit Bloodkit, Deathkit, Bonekit, etc. Names also can't be from the clans. Like Boulderkit, Lichenpaw, or Hollowpaw.
- Our RP isn't the most realistic of course, as we do have spirit involvement. However, this does NOT mean we want blue cats who can see the future running around. Absolutely NO powers will be allowed.
- ALL colors must be realistic, with semi-realistic designs. As in, no diamonds, tattoos, etc but stripes and spots can vary.
- We DO allow items, as long as these items are something that can be found in the forest and applied by a cat. You wouldn't find a bow tie laying around the forest. We mean you can have a twig in their mouth, or feathers behind their ears. Kittypets can wear collars, but only temporarily. It eventually is taken off.
- We do NOT allow cats with "knife like" claws, or anything of the sort. Claws and fangs are NORMAL in Viridity, no exceptions. If you need to rely on massive dagger-like claws and vampire fangs in order to win a fight, then you need to learn how to fight properly.
- Only real cat breeds are allowed in this RP, but you can be a mongrel (mutt version of a cat) with many different breeds to create something different.
- No cats who are part lynx or other big cats. Savannah cats are allowed, BUT they must be ex-kittypet, and we will only allow up to four active savannah cat characters as it is a rare occurrence in the RP. You wouldn't see flocks of them in the forest.
- In short, realistic cats with semi-real designs and only real breeds.
3. CHARACTERS.
- No full manes, I realize it shows fluffy-ness but it just looks terribly awkward on FH.
- You must be active in the clan you first joined. Even if that character dies, you still must have a character in it. If you genuinely have a huge problem with your clan and feel you need a transfer, then tell a moderator IMMEDIATELY before it is too late. *Most* clan transfers are denied after two days of being in the clan, so decide quickly. You will not be allowed to clan hop! If you are seen being more active in other clans, you will be asked to delete your other characters.
- NO INSTA CRUSHES OR INSTA MATES OF ANY KIND. Must have at least 2 days IRL time to develop a crush!
- You get 4 characters, and only 2 if you fail to be active often. Three can be anything. A warrior, an elder, a loner.. the last can ONLY be an elder or a loner/rogue.
- You may not only be a kittypet or only be a loner. You can only stay as a kp/loner/rogue for 10 days, then you will be asked to RP into a clan, or make a second clan cat.
- No matter the breed or strength of your character, they may NOT exceed Crowstar's size. Here's a little size chart for you.
LARGE, HEAVY CAT (can increase length)
AVERAGE MALE
AVERAGE FEMALE
NO KIT SIZED WARRIORS PLEASE.
Map password is soggynachos.
- Whatever you do, whatever you RP, you are doing it at your character's own risk. Accept it. This means that if you kill someone, walk into a camp as a rogue and cause trouble, you are likely to be gunned down by the clans and killed for being a threat. You CAN'T play the victim card or be surprised when the clans react REALISTICALLY. Accept it, or don't RP it
- Please try to stick to one personality. While some may have multiple personalities, it can be aggravating to have a character who was raiding and attacking one moment and then offering food and taking care of kittens the next. In short, be bad or be good so there's no irritation or confusion.
- All characters must have weaknesses. You CANNOT be agile AND huge. You can't be a great tree climber, and also an expert fisher. Choose a skill, and weight it out with weaknesses. (i.e, Crowstar is one of the biggest cats in the forest, very strong and a leader... but he has terrible sight, despises swimming, and is often reckless in making decisions.) If you are seen having too many skills and not enough weaknesses you will be asked to change your character.
- As for characters aging, 2-3 days will equal one moon. You are allowed to slow this time down if your character is an adult, as that's typically the age you want to keep your character at. The time is often scrambled and messed around with for RP purposes, but it is USUALLY 2-3 days and we will inform you if there are changes.
- Lastly, unless your character was actually a kittypet, you may not use actual cuss words in the RP. Damn and bastard are probably the only thing we will allow. Please don't have your character saying ass, shit, etc.
4. K I T S / Q U E E N S
- All kits are named after the thing their mother dreams about the night before their birth, and it also often has to do with their appearance as well. But this doesn't mean a queen can dream of death and name her kit Deathkit. Even so, all names for kittens must be realistic.
- Kits must have at least 6 RP sessions in before they can be apprenticed. Their mother must be present for their apprenticeship unless she gives permission to do it anyways.
- Queens can't poof and be pregnant unless they A) have had a mate for 10 days or B) joined as a queen.
- Only one queen can give birth at once in a clan. Her kits must be apprenticed or very close to apprenticeship before another queen can give birth.
5. A P P R E N T I C E S
- You are only allowed to train with warriors in your clan. If you have an active mentor, we prefer you keep sessions with them unless they fall inactive. I've noticed a lot of apprentices like to train with rogues, but in actuality if a young cat spotted a rogue in the forest they may just high tail it back to camp/not accept any sort of lesson from them. If you do train with them, it still will not count. Your mentor/training classes are there for a reason.
- You MUST have 5 training lessons in before getting your warrior ceremony. Sometimes this is more if you're inactive. It is implied that there was a lot more training in between these sessions so your character didn't literally have only sessions, they actually had moons of practice.
- All apprentices must be at least 16-18 moons before becoming a warrior- this is the bare minimum.. Keep in mind they are training for many moons to please and serve their clan, so their mentor would want to make sure they are perfectly fit for the role. They'd also still be considerably young when becoming a warrior.
- If your mentor is not active, you can see your leader about a new one or you can attend "classes" where you have a teacher for a subject and train with multiple other apprentices.
6. R O G U E S / L O N E R S / K I T T Y P E T S
- All rogues and loners may not be younger then 19 moons, which is still very young. These are cats who are living a life on their own in a giant forest with many threats, who must hunt for themselves. They MUST be a proper age for it. Kit/apprentice rogues or loners are very unrealistic.
- Please ask a leader before creating a rogue.
- Kittypets must at least be 5 moons old, and they can't wonder across rivers or get deep into the forest. The reason is is because many people like to have young kittypets, but in reality they wouldn't get very far until they get swooped up by a bird or eaten. In other words, warriors must find you nearby the two leg place, or you must be an older kittypet in order to wander more.
- All rogues, loners and kittypets may NOT intrude on a camp ground without first asking the leader/deputy's permission. Any RP posts will be dismissed until you ask.
- Your R / L can not just wonder into a camp or hurt someone and try to get away scott free. If you do anything that the clans would consider a threat, your character WILL be watched out for, and will most likely NOT be forgiven easily at all. Do not try to play the victim card when we react realistically.
7. A C T I V I T Y
- Activity requirement is 3 days a week. Every other day for med app/medicine cat/deputy, and daily (with some excused absences in between) for a leader.
- If you can't be active enough for a high rank, don't take it and don't be surprised when an administrator de-ranks you. It's honestly just kind or rude and rank hogging.
- We won't tolerate people who constantly leave the RP and then come back. You can do this three times, but the fourth time you will not be allowed to rejoin the RP.
8. M E D S / D E P / L E A D E R.
- You will not receive any of the ranks unless the leader specifically asks for you, or you audition. Period.
- Do not apply for any rank- including med apprentice- if you KNOW you won't be able to be active. The requirement is every other day, and daily for leaders (with some excused absences in between of course)
- All leaders must be willing to recruit and take samples for their clan. Deputies should also be willing to recruit for their leader and take charge OOCly. Crowstar won't hold your hand and recruit everyone for you. You're leader for a reason.
- All must be highly literate, very familiar with the rules and how to enforce them, and know when enough is enough. I want to say mature, but who is honestly mature on feralheart? Just know when to stop joking in other words!
- If a leader/dep/med/med app continuously becomes absent - even if it is excused, they WILL be removed. I completely understand that RL things happen, but we still need someone to fill the position in the RP.
- Leaders must help moderate the forum and moderate their clan. As said before, other mods will not do it for you.
9. R P B A T T L E
- Auto-hit style - unless during a training lesson- will not ever be tolerated. If preformed more than three times in a battle, you will be asked to step out of the fight. Instead, aim and attempt.
- Auto-hitting means that you said in your role play post you full on landed a hit with no miss ("He clawed at her eye, drawing blood"). Aiming and attempting is specifically saying you TRIED to make that hit, and whether you make it or not is up to the opponent's response (He threw his claw forward and attempted to claw her eye)
- Just because you are given the chance to dodge doesn't mean you need to take it every single time. Large, heavy cats are only allowed 5 dodges in a battle. Agile, swift cats are allowed 7. They may NOT be continuous (like you can't dodge 7 times in a row)
- All moves must be realistic. No ninja flips or anything of the sort.
- Cats under the age of 7 moons may not participate in a fight.
- Please know your mortality. I know there's an arguement about "Agility can beat brute strength!" but in reality, as soon as a large cat gets his teeth on a smaller she cat, she will most likely die. Please role play realistically at all times and TAKE HITS realistically. Your character is NOT made of steel and will get brutally injured.
- If you get severely injured in a battle you will be out and sitting in the med den for at least 6 days.
- A lot of wounds can be healed, but please keep in mind that your character will never recover if their shoulders dislocate or their ribs break. Usually cats would just go away to curl up and die if they actually broke their ribs. I'd recommend not getting those broken.
10. P R O F A N I T Y/WHAT NOT TO SAY
- Respect each other. One of our most important rules is to be kind to each other, as we're all here for the same reason; to have fun, to build a story. Do not ruin it by being flat out rude.
- Cussing is allowed but please remember that not everyone is as old or as bold as you. Do not drop the F bomb a lot, and I ask you censor a lot of what you say. If someone kindly asks you to stop because it's bothering them, then do it.
- Racism of any kind will not be tolerated. While you may think it's just a "harmless joke" a person of that race could be highly offended by it. So please, keep it to yourself no matter how funny you think you're being.
*Trigger Warning*
- The discussion of disorders like anxiety or anorexia is not to be joked about or even talked about. Some people may have/had such problems and do not want to relive it. It's insensitive to talk about it.
- The same thing goes for talking about rape. When I say this, I don't mean "You can say it if it's a joke!" I mean don't even joke about it.. It's very damaging mentally and a terrible thing to go through. Even things like "*rapes ur character because it's hawt*" will not be tolerated. To some people this may sound ridiculous, but we've all agreed it's more than reasonable.
(trigger done)
- And on a final note, please don't bring personal problems into a public chat. We'd love to make room and help everyone but honestly it can trigger someone else by talking about problems.
11. MISC RULES
- Do not take matters into your own hands if a problem in the RP occurs. You screenshot it, and you send it to a moderator. Mini-mods won't be allowed here.
- You may not make spirit characters, or characters part of prophecies. They are to be AUDITIONED for and we do keep track of them.
- Please do not discuss the Dark Forest cave's location. It's supposed to be secretive and used for RP purposes. Do not disclose the location or visit it often.
- No other groups on the map aside from the three clans. It's honestly disrespectful to us RP admins to do those things without permission.
- When a mod says no, it means no. If you believe they are being unreasonable or not doing their job properly then speak to Crowstar or Cloudstar and we will go over the situation.1
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